Any solutions to save and re-import these hidden MetaData

storyline
storyline Community Member Posts: 26
As of version 11.3.2: The Audio editor is the worst UI and marker audio sync controller I've seen.



1. The marks cannot be dragged to adjust position. Totally useless.

2. The marker cannot be retained. Thus if you have to reuse the same course for a second language you have to re-input all the markers again (manually of course).



e.g French: if the markers where retained and had drag ability you would just have to adjust them (Make sense?)



3. The UI is too big. Make it dock-able and no higher than 100px. It is so big that you have to move it constantly to view to underlying slide to know when to place a marker. And markers should have a short-cut key like the Storyline 'C' key.



I've tried to find a MetaData reader to save the markers, no avail. The closest was VLC which shown showed only a portion of XML the editor embeds.



Any solutions to save and re-import these hidden MetaData?????

Comments

  • ssneg
    ssneg Community Member Posts: 1,466 ☆ Roadie ☆
    If I had to build a course with a lot of narration synced to stuff happening on screen, I'd use Storyline, storyline. Lectora's functionality is quite rudimentary in that respect, and the media editor is terrible. If I had to rank all Lectora features, this would be on the bottom of the list. Lectora excels in other things.
  • kellykungfu
    kellykungfu Community Member Posts: 83
    @ssneg 61809 wrote:
    If I had to build a course with a lot of narration synced to stuff happening on screen, I'd use Storyline, storyline. Lectora's functionality is quite rudimentary in that respect, and the media editor is terrible. If I had to rank all Lectora features, this would be on the bottom of the list. Lectora excels in other things.


    Hey Sergy,



    Interesting advice to use Storyline to a user whose name is storyline! I'm wondering if that post was from a Storyline employee :)



    I actually use both Lectora and Storyline and admit to it. Depends on the course and the functions needed.



    -kelly
  • ssneg
    ssneg Community Member Posts: 1,466 ☆ Roadie ☆
    I know :) Must be Tom Kuhlmann himself! :)))



    Seriously, I think most people want a one-tool-fits-all kind of software. In the days of yore, Articulate Studio was good at syncing slide animations and narration (although not SUPER good, and I can say that after syncing probably 400 hours of courses), and Lectora was good at building interactive stuff with actions and variables. Now, Storyline added the triggers (actions) and variables, while keeping the narration features of Studio. It's still nowhere near Lectora in terms of extensibility with HTML, CSS and JS but it's much closer to the average corporate developer's idea of "a tool that is good for all purposes".



    I think Lectora should update their syncing and events UI. There are a lot of things that can be easily improved without building new functionality. E.g.:

    - hit spacebar to add a marker (one keystroke vs two mouse clicks!)

    - drag events markers (red triangles) along the timeline

    - optimize the audio player to handle large files better

    - add ability to copy events between files and/or pages

    etc (I'm sure the beta community would come up with more and better suggestions)
  • storyline
    storyline Community Member Posts: 26
    @kellykungfu 61814 wrote:
    Hey Sergy,



    Interesting advice to use Storyline to a user whose name is storyline! I'm wondering if that post was from a Storyline employee :)



    I actually use both Lectora and Storyline and admit to it. Depends on the course and the functions needed.



    -kelly


    I used Storyline as the User Name out of frustration (hoping the development team would read it). We make eLearning courses for the auto manufactures, all by one have switched to Storyline. The one hold out has internal staff (must be paid by the hour as it takes twice as long to synced audio in multiple languages).



    The bad part is; we have to do each course in multiple languages (so an audio editor that could save the markers would save us hours of work). Also slideable markers would be a bonus.



    The biggest beef with Storyline is the Flash or Canvas (HTML5) player. You have no way to built HTML menus or go to slides outside the player.



    Maybe one day the big 3 fastfood Hamburger joints will have a BBQ and maybe figure out how to cook a burger.



    P.S. forgot to add: saving the events time in ASC time order would help also.



    The left align UI ribbon bar buttons jump all over the place. Make the buttons static. Nothing like seeing the most used buttons jumping from right to left or left to right because the ribbon grows or shrinks.
  • ssneg
    ssneg Community Member Posts: 1,466 ☆ Roadie ☆
    @storyline 61819 wrote:
    Maybe one day the big 3 fastfood Hamburger joints will have a BBQ and maybe figure out how to cook a burger.
    I hope not! :) Lack of competition and cartel agreements in a market dominated by a few big players never helped anyone, ever.
  • storyline
    storyline Community Member Posts: 26
    @ssneg 61825 wrote:
    I hope not! :) Lack of competition and cartel agreements in a market dominated by a few big players never helped anyone, ever.


    As the king and red haired girl ponder the question: The clown continues to flip the freshly (non-frozen) burgers on the BBQ.
  • storyline
    storyline Community Member Posts: 26
    Well it seem the marker tags are stored in the MP3 file as a custom TXXX tag.

    After installing 20 MP3 editors I finally found one call KID3

    that can edit the hidden Lectora event tag.

    http://kid3.sourceforge.net/



    At least I can now edit/copy events tags then place then into the FRENCH language MP3s files.

    However, the stupid markers (as you now) do not slide for real-time placement adjustments in Lectora's editor

    THIS REALLY SUCKS !!!!!



    The Blackberry of audio timelining. Keep up with the jones's before its too late.

    I was informed that the next version will not have any improved audio or timeline control.